Podcast

In this episode, we sit down with terrain-forward naturopath Nicky Leach to explore a model of health that looks beyond diagnoses, protocols, and symptom management. Rather than asking, "What's the treatment?" Nicky asks a different question: "What conditions allowed this to happen in the first place?"

Drawing from the ancient medical classics, Tommy explains why Chinese physicians believed disease begins in the heart, how chronic emotional patterns can eventually become physical pathology, and why the body's symptoms are often the final chapter of a story that began years earlier. Together we examine the Chinese understanding of anger, fear, purpose, stillness, and the relationship between the inner climate and the outer world.

In this episode, we’re joined by Dr. James Odell, Executive Director of the Bioregulatory Medicine Institute (BRMI), an organization dedicated to researching and educating on systems-based, non-toxic approaches to health. With a background in naturopathy, Traditional Chinese Medicine, and European biological medicine, Dr. Odell has spent decades studying how the body regulates, adapts, and heals across both biochemical and energetic dimensions.